Instrument
Tubular bells
The thread mixes small desktop chimes with orchestral tubular bells, and one reply asks which are meant; only the moderator's comment is about orchestral tubes.1
Also called tubular bells, chimes.
- Range
- C4–F5
- Overtones to
- about 3.6 kHz
- Peaks up close
- up to 118.2 dB SPL
- Sources
- 5 (5 independent)
Mics sources recommend
13 setups from 5 sources, 5 of them independent of any mic maker. Each mic shows how many sources name it for that role, and how many of those are independent. Listed alphabetically: there is no ranking.
Studio
Overhead
- Rode TF51 independent source
- large-diaphragm condenser pair (type only)1 independent source
Close
- Neumann KM 1841 independent source
- close microphone1 independent source
- stereo pair (type not named)1 independent source
Distant
- AKG C4141 independent source
- Microtech Gefell M2211 independent source
Main pair or array
- Microtech Gefell M9401 independent source
- Neumann U 871 independent source
- Samar Audio Design VL373A1 independent source
- main microphones (type not named)2 independent sources
The 13 setups behind this: placement and quotes
- Overhead 2 × large-diaphragm condenser pair (type only)stereo pair at distance, as for drum overheads
Distance is your friend; use a pair of LDC mics in stereo, like a set of overheads on a drum kit (paraphrase)
1 - Close 2 × stereo pair (type not named)tubular bells: a pair set back over the player's shoulders; drop the input gain 10-20 dB, as transients trick meters
I'd set a pair back over the players shoulders from left and right; knock the input gain down at least 10 (paraphrase)
1 - Close Neumann KM 184close, close mics (positions not described further)
Close Mics- Neumann KM 184's
2 - Distant AKG C414distant, 'far' mics
Far Mics- AKG C414's
2 - Main pair or array Neumann U 87room, 'balcony' mics
Balcony Mics- Neumann U87s
2 - Main pair or array main microphones (type not named)main, mics where the conductor would normally stand (tubular bells/chimes among the instruments)
The mics were positioned where the conductor would normally stand, which means the hall's acoustic is discernible
3 - Overhead 2 × Rode TF5pair, close: a pair of TF5s as overheads for the attacks (no distance given)
Up close, a pair of Rode TF5 overheads provide unmatched articulation and detail to the attacks.
4 - Distant 2 × Microtech Gefell M221pair, mid distance: measurement omnis (no distance given)
At mid distance, legendary Microtech Gefell M221 measurement omnis capture the perfect blend of body and detail
4 - Main pair or array Microtech Gefell M940main, supercardioid LDCs as main mics
For main mics, choose between the focused, ultra-low noise Microtech Gefell M940 supercardioid LDC's
4 - Main pair or array Samar Audio Design VL373Amain, alternative stereo ribbon main mic
the relaxed sound of the Samar Audio Design VL373A stereo active ribbon mic
4 - Close close microphoneclose, mono close mic
Close Mic - Mono
5 - Close 2 × mid-layer pairpair, stereo mid-layer mic
Mid Layer Mic - Stereo (L/R)
5 - Main pair or array 3 × Decca treemain, Decca tree as main/room mic
Main/Room Mic - Decca Tree Stereo (L/R) ... Decca Tree Mono (Center)
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Advised against
- Close close mic (any type)close mic on chimes gave "terrible results"; shrill white noise (poster's own attempt)
I've tried close mic'ing (terrible results) and various distance mic'ing... chimes end up sounding like a shrill white noise (paraphrase)
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Range
C4 to F56262 Hz – 698 Hz
Standard 1.5 octaves (18 tubes); 2-octave F3-F5 and 2 1/3-octave Eb3-G5 sets exist. The pitch named is the strike note (VSL).
| Whole range | C4–F5 | metallic strike, long humming decay |
|---|
Tuning: Strike note tuned to equal temperament; the heard pitch is inferred from modes 4, 5 and 6 near 2:3:4.6,7
Overtones reach about 3.6 kHz (the highest harmonic within 40 dB of the strongest, at a moderate level; louder playing reaches higher).
- 2 octave, 25 tubes: VSL.6
- 2 1/3 octave philharmonic, 29 tubes: VSL.6
- 1.6 octave (professional, to G5): Wikipedia ('some professional models reach G5'); Adams BK5216 lists 1.6 octaves as C5-G6 in its octave naming.7,8
- Adams chimes as named by Adams: Adams Philharmonic BK5203 and Standard BK2201 list '1.5 octaves (C5-F6)'. This is the same instrument as C4-F5 named an octave higher, the naming difference Wikipedia mentions; kept as given.8,9
- Adams bass extension BK5200 (as named by Adams): 0.5 octave add-on; Wikipedia captions the Adams bass chimes as F3-B3, again an octave apart.8,7
The sound
The tube's bending modes 4, 5 and 6 fall near 2:3:4, so the ear hears a pitch an octave below mode 4 (the strike note) even though nothing sounds there.
Recording it
- Where: 1–2 m away, at about the height of the top caps where the tubes are struck; a single close mic catches only part of a tube
Good to know
How loud
Sound pressure level measurements as published. Different kinds of figure (a playing level, a peak, a dose at the player's ear) can't be compared with each other, and neither can figures at different distances.
| Peaks | |
|---|---|
| 118.2 dB | at the player's head position; Tubular bells (Premier), played by a percussion student in an individual practice session in a practice room of the F. Chopin Academy of Music, Warsaw; 1/4-in B&K 4135 mic on a tripod at the position of the musician's head; 120 s music selection10 |
| Player's exposure (dosimeter) | |
| 99.4 dB | at the player's head position (tripod mic near the instrument); Tubular bells (Premier), played by a percussion student in an individual practice session in a practice room of the F. Chopin Academy of Music, Warsaw; 1/4-in B&K 4135 mic on a tripod at the position of the musician's head; 120 s music selection10 |
Nothing found. The existing entry says "1-2 m away at the height of the top caps"; no source found for or against it.
Sources
- HomeRecording.com forum: What is a good way to record chimes? (2023)
- Pianobook: Hunter's Percussion - Orchestral (concert chimes; hunter rogerson), recording rig
- Sound On Sound: London Orchestral Percussion review (Dave Stewart, Oct 2002)
- Versilian Studios: Tubular Bells II sample library, mic positions
- Vienna Symphonic Library: Synchron Bells I (tubular bells, Synchron Stage A)
- Vienna Symphonic Library Academy: Tubular bells
- Wikipedia: Tubular bells
- Adams: Philharmonic series chimes (specifications)
- Adams: Standard series chimes (specifications)
- Archives of Acoustics: Jaroszewski, Rogowski, Rakowski, Sound pressure levels in emission of percussion instruments during training sessions (25(3), 283-289)
- Fletcher and Rossing: The Physics of Musical Instruments, 2nd edition
- VS Chamber Orchestra 2: Community Edition sample library (Versilian Studios), CC0; own FFT analysis