Mic Archive

Instrument

Erhu

Two-string Chinese spike fiddle. The bow hair runs between the strings. No fingerboard.

Range
D4–A7
Sources
12 (12 independent)

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21 setups from 12 sources, 12 of them independent of any mic maker. Each mic shows how many sources name it for that role, and how many of those are independent. Listed alphabetically: there is no ranking.

Studio

Close

  • AKG C414 ("414 TLMII" as written)1 independent source
  • Audio-Technica AT40601 independent source
  • Beyerdynamic MC 7401 independent source
  • Neumann KM 1841 independent source
  • Neumann TLM 1031 independent source
  • Neumann U 671 independent source
  • sE Electronics sE8 Omni (used as PZM boundary mic)1 independent source
  • cardioid microphone (type not named)1 independent source
  • condenser microphone (type not named)1 independent source
  • five microphones (models not named)3 independent sources
  • large-diaphragm microphones (pair, models not named)1 independent source
  • ribbon microphone (type not named)1 independent source

Room

  • AKG C414 ("414")1 independent source
  • omnidirectional microphones (pair, types not named)1 independent source
  • single-point stereo tube microphone (Blumlein)1 independent source

Main pair or array

  • main stereo or multichannel array (types not named)1 independent source

Overhead

The 19 setups behind this: placement and quotes
  • Close five microphones (models not named)
    close, five positions: Mid-Low, Mid-High, Front, Rear and Distant (last one distant)
    Samples were recorded with 5 microphones: Mid-Low, Mid-High, Front, Rear, and Distant.1
  • Close microphone (type not named)
    close, aimed at the soundbox (resonator), about 50 cm away; for a full sound the post says 4-5 or more mics are usually used on one instrument
    二胡:MIC对准腔体,距离50厘米左右。2
  • Close Audio-Technica AT4060
    close, single mono mic a couple of feet in front of the player
    (paraphrase, from search summary) excellent results with one mono AT4060 into a Neve or NTI mic pre, on a record mixing erhu with Western instruments3
  • Close Neumann KM 184
    close, a couple of feet from the instrument, facing the performer, at the height of the bow
    A KM184 a couple of feet away from the instrument, facing the performer, at the same level of the bow3
  • Close condenser microphone (type not named)
    close, second mic at the base of the instrument coming in from the rear, on its own track, for the low end that fades on soft passages
    worth hooking up another mic, preferably a condenser, at the base of the instrument, coming in from the rear3
  • Close ribbon microphone (type not named)
    close, at the rear/base position (poster's untried suggestion)
    (paraphrase, from search summary) a third poster suggests a ribbon for that rear position, though has not tried it3
  • Room AKG C414 ("414")
    distant, a 414 placed at a distance, through an API preamp; treat like a classical violin in a big warm room
    (paraphrase, from search summary) best results came from a 414 placed at a distance, going through an API; the erhu's soft, mellow low end gets lost under its piercing top4
  • Close AKG C414 ("414 TLMII" as written)
    close, single mic aimed at the back of the instrument, a bit up and away
    a Focusrite red pre and a single 414 TLMII, miced the back of the instrument, a bit up and away4
  • Room 2 × single-point stereo tube microphone (Blumlein)
    pair, single-point Blumlein stereo mic in a warm room
    (paraphrase, from search summary) one poster used a single point Blumlein stereo classic tube mike4
  • Room 2 × omnidirectional microphones (pair, types not named)
    pair, spaced omnis in a warm room
    (paraphrase, from search summary) a spaced pair of omnis can work just as well4
  • Close cardioid microphone (type not named)
    close, at the player's front side, about 45 degrees off the front (the usual erhu mic position)
    目前二胡录音的传声器位置通常选在演奏员侧前方45度方向附近 ... 放置在二胡侧前方的心形传声器,比放置在侧后方的传声器能够拾取到更多的二胡弓、弦细节 (front-side cardioid gets more bow and string detail than the rear-side mic)5
  • Close microphone (type not named)
    close, at the player's rear side, about 45 degrees behind (louder, softer and more pleasant tone; cites Zhang, Yang & Meng, 二胡录音的声学问题); blended with the front-side mic, watching phase
    演奏员侧后方45度方向附近也是一个值得考虑的位置,这一位置在二胡的录制中声音响度较大,且音色也较为柔合和悦耳5
  • Main pair or array main stereo or multichannel array (types not named)
    main, high and far, taking orchestra and erhu soloist as one whole, with spot mics near single instruments or sections for detail
    主传声器...普遍放置在较高较远的位置 ... 将辅助传声器放置在单个乐器或单个乐器组附近 (paraphrase: main pickup high and distant, spots close for detail)5
  • Close Beyerdynamic MC 740
    close (positions not described), sample-library session into a Neve 5088 and dCS 905
    including a Neve 5088 console, dCS 905 AD converter and Beyerdynamic MC740 Microphones6
  • Close 2 × large-diaphragm microphones (pair, models not named)
    pair, wide close stereo configuration, dry studio (Wabi Sabi Sound, Berkeley)
    Most of the content was captured at Wabi Sabi Sound in Berkeley, CA, using large-diaphragm mics placed in a wide, close stereo configuration to provide presence and clarity7
  • Close Neumann U 67
    close/spot, ensemble session
    Neumann U67s on the erhu and zhonghu (Chinese chamber orchestra session).8
  • Overhead 2 × sE Electronics sE8
    overhead, four sE8 spread evenly above the bowed-string (huqin: gaohu, erhu, zhonghu) section of a 100-player Chinese orchestra, part of an 8-mic suspended array (pair above conductor plus side mics)
    A further four sE8 matrix points were evenly distributed above the string section, ensuring accurate localization and an immersive orchestral capture9
  • Close sE Electronics sE8 Omni (used as PZM boundary mic)
    area, three on the floor at the front of the orchestra, to catch energy radiating along the floor from erhu and pipa
    Three sE8 Omni PZM boundary microphones were positioned at the front of the orchestra to capture energy radiating along the floor from instruments such as the erhu and pipa9
  • Close Neumann TLM 103
    close, in front of soundbox
    Neumann TLM103 right in front of the soundbox, to bring out depth without highlighting the bow sound (paraphrase).10

On stage

Close

  • microphone (type not named)2 independent sources
The 2 setups behind this: placement and quotes
  • Close microphone (type not named)
    close (placement not stated), to balance with loud percussion and winds in larger ensembles
    In larger ensembles, the erhu may be amplified with a microphone11
  • Close microphone (type not named)
    close (placement not stated), for a concerto with orchestra in a big concert hall; Gao notes the sound leaves through the back of the soundbox and thinks mics sound unnatural
    when an erhu player performs a concerto with an orchestra in a big concert hall, the erhu's sound is overpowered and usually a microphone is needed12

Advised against

Range

D4 to about A714294 Hz – 3.52 kHz

A7 is where the stopping finger meets the bow; some players go beyond

Tuning: Open strings D4 and A4 (a fifth); Atlas guide 'Tuning d1 - a1'. Related huqin: zhonghu G3-D4, gaohu G4-D5. Fretless, so intonation is the player's; 'equal' here only means the open strings are given as Western pitches.15

Where the sound goes

Tone comes from the python skin on the front of the hexagonal soundbox, not a wooden top (Wikipedia). The source shows nothing on radiation direction beyond that.

Recording it

Production Expert used a Neumann TLM 103 right in front of the soundbox, aiming for depth "without highlighting the sound of the bow". Mix reports Neumann U 67s on erhu and zhonghu in an orchestra session. Bow noise is the problem, as for any fiddle; no erhu-specific source gave distances.

About the range

D4 to A7, about 3.5 octaves, inner string D4 and outer A4 (Wikipedia). The top is a soft limit: A7 is where the stopping finger runs into the bow contact point. Some modern players go beyond (Wikipedia on Xu Ke, "more than four octaves").

Names

Chinese violin, nanhu (related); the zhonghu is the larger, lower sibling.

Sources

  1. Ample Sound: Ample China Erhu (sample library)engineer · amplesound.net
  2. Liu Pin, cnblogs (Sep 2010): Mic在声音拾取方面的技巧 (mic pickup techniques)educational · cnblogs.com
  3. Gearspace: Micing an Erhu? (thread)forum · gearspace.com
  4. Gearspace: Signal chain for Erhu? (thread)forum · gearspace.com
  5. Huain.com (Song Qin, Jul 2023): 二胡与交响乐团的录音与制作浅释 (Recording erhu with symphony orchestra, Silk Road Strings album)engineer · huain.com
  6. KVR Audio forum (developer post, Dec 2012): Sound Magic releases China Story Erhuengineer · kvraudio.com
  7. KVR Audio news (Jun 2012): Soundiron releases Street Erhuengineer · kvraudio.com
  8. Mix: Forbidden City Chamber Orchestra at United Recording (engineer Brian Vibberts)magazine · mixonline.com
  9. Iverson Zhende Xu (Shanghai Conservatory / Full Dimension), on mjelia.com: Sound of Shanghai, The Art and Technology of Spatial Audio Reproduction (100-player Chinese orchestra session)engineer · mjelia.com
  10. Production Expert: How To Record Traditional Chinese Instruments - Expert Tutorialmagazine · production-expert.com
  11. Lan Tung (erhu player): Erhu, info for composerseducational · lantungmusic.com
  12. Shenzhen Daily (Cao Zhen, Sep 2014): Innovative master enriches erhu melody (George Gao)magazine · szdaily.com
  13. Music From The Movies interview (2007), reposted by CNMS archive (Oct 2013): Karen Han, Flavoring the Film Score (Memoirs of a Geisha)magazine · cnmsarchive.wordpress.com
  14. Wikipedia: Erhureference · en.wikipedia.org
  15. Atlas Ensemble / VICO: Erhu (composer's guide by Moshe Denburg)Moshe Denburg · educational · 2004 · atlasensemble.nl