Brass
Trumpet
Brass: Trumpet, horn, trombone, tuba and their relatives. Brass is loud close to the bell, so a mic's maximum SPL matters as much as its response.
Part of the Brass family; that family's advice shows here too.
- Range
- E3–Bb5
- Overtones to
- about 5.6 kHz
- Peaks up close
- up to 140 dB SPL
- Sources
- 14 (9 independent)
Mics sources recommend
26 setups from 14 sources, 9 of them independent of any mic maker. Each mic shows how many sources name it for that role, and how many of those are independent. Listed alphabetically: there is no ranking.
Studio
Close
- AKG C4141 independent source
- beyerdynamic M 1601 independent source
- beyerdynamic M 881 independent source
- DPA 4011A maker's advice1 source, 0 independent
- Electro-Voice RE201 independent source
- Neumann U 872 independent sources
- Peluso 22471 independent source
- Royer R-121 maker's advice2 sources, 1 independent
- Sennheiser MD 4211 independent source
- Shure SM7 (earlier version of the Shure SM7B)1 independent source
- cardioid dynamic, large-diaphragm condenser or ribbon (type only)1 independent source
Named, no placement given
- Royer R-121 maker's advice1 source, 0 independent
Distant
- AEA R441 independent source
- Coles 40381 independent source
- Electro-Voice RE201 independent source
- Neumann U 871 independent source
- Royer R-121 maker's advice1 source, 0 independent
- Royer R-122 maker's advice1 source, 0 independent
- ribbon (type only); condenser and dynamic described as brighter1 independent source
Room
- Royer SF-121 independent source
The 18 setups behind this: placement and quotes
- Close DPA 4011Aclose, 30-50 cm from the bell, slightly off axis
4011A/4011C perfect for close miking and handle very high SPL; 30 to 50 cm from the bell, slightly off axis (paraphrase).
1 - Close Peluso 2247in front of the bell, with some space so it does not turn harsh
Trumpet: mic in front of the bell with a bit of space; the writer used a Peluso 2247 (paraphrase).
2 - Close Royer R-121solo trumpet, about 2 ft from the bell, slightly off-axis
Wayne Bergeron album: R-121 or R-122 about two feet from the bell, slightly off axis (Royer press piece).
3 - Close Sennheiser MD 421close, on-axis about 12 in from the bell
Trumpet: MD 421/441, EV RE20/RE15/RE27, Shure SM7, beyerdynamic M 160/260/500 ribbons; 135-140 dB SPL, keep a pad within reach (paraphrase).
4 - Close Electro-Voice RE20 or beyerdynamic M 160 or Shure SM7 (earlier version of the Shure SM7B)close, about 12 in from the bell
Listed with the 421/441 and RE15/RE27 for trumpet (paraphrase). ... Listed among ribbons for trumpet with the M 260 and M 500 (paraphrase). ... Listed among dynamics for trumpet (paraphrase).
4 - Close Neumann U 87close, 6-12 in from the bell edge
Large-diaphragm cardioid condenser, Neumann U 87 named as premium choice, 6 to 12 inches from the bell edge (paraphrase).
5 - Close Royer R-121close, for a darker tone
Ribbon alternative for a darker tone: beyerdynamic M 160, AEA R84, Royer R-121, Coles 4038 (paraphrase).
5 - Named, no placement given Royer R-121comparison against Neumann U 67 and RCA 77DX
Albini compared the R-121, Neumann U 67 and RCA 77DX on trumpet (page gives no verdict).
6 - Distant Royer R-122distance, 2-5 ft in front, about 6 in below the line of sight of the bell
Place the mic 2 to 5 feet in front of the instrument and about 6 inches below the line of sight of the bell.
7 - Distant Royer R-121distance, 2-5 ft in front, below the bell axis
Smooth ribbon highs reduce the harshness common with other mic types (paraphrase).
7 - Close Neumann U 87 or AKG C414close, within 0.5 m of the bell (use the pad)
Large-diaphragm condensers (U87, C414) within half a metre of the bell; engage the pad (paraphrase).
8 - Distant Coles 4038 or AEA R44distance, no closer than about 1 m, with a pop screen
Ribbons (Coles 4038, AEA R44) no closer than a metre, with a pop screen (paraphrase).
8 - Distant Neumann U 87close, 3-5 ft from the bell, slightly above and off-axis
Solo trumpet close mic about 3-5 ft away, slightly above, off-axis, plus a stereo ribbon room mic (summaries differ on the distance).
9 - Close beyerdynamic M 88close, about 2 ft, off-axis to the side
Second close mic on the trumpet, about 2 ft away; engineer added a Royer SF-12 stereo ribbon room mic.
9 - Room Royer SF-12room, 12-15 ft
Stereo ribbon room mic 12-15 ft from the players; the part worked better with it muted in the mix (paraphrase).
9 - Distant ribbon (type only); condenser and dynamic described as brighterdistance, 4-6 ft, a few inches above or below the bell's line of sight, about 40 degrees off axis
A ribbon mic will generally give you the most full and natural trumpet sound.
10 - Distant Electro-Voice RE20distance, about 1 m, aimed at the bell, slightly offset
Dynamic mics advised (condensers and ribbons risk overload at about 140 dB); RE20 named; about 1 m, slightly offset (paraphrase).
11 - Close cardioid dynamic, large-diaphragm condenser or ribbon (type only)distance, about 10 in, at the bell centre
A cardioid dynamic mic is a good choice; a large-diaphragm condenser can work too; start about 10 inches away (paraphrase).
12
On stage
Clip-on
- DPA 4062 (variant of the DPA 4060) maker's advice1 source, 0 independent
- DPA 4099 CORE+ maker's advice2 sources, 1 independent
- Shure BETA 98H/C maker's advice1 source, 0 independent
- Shure PGA98H-XLR maker's advice1 source, 0 independent
Close
- Sennheiser MD 4411 independent source
- Shure SM137 maker's advice1 source, 0 independent
The 8 setups behind this: placement and quotes
- Clip-on DPA 4062 (variant of the DPA 4060)clip-on, on the instrument
The omni gives the most natural sound at low amplification (paraphrase).
1 - Clip-on Shure BETA 98H/Cclip-on, on the bell, 1-2 ft
BETA 98H/C lets you clip right on the horn; a wireless solution for high-volume brass (paraphrase).
13 - Close Shure SM137stand, 1-2 ft from the bell
SM137 has a 15 dB pad for high-volume performance applications (paraphrase).
13 - Clip-on DPA 4099 CORE+clip-on, trumpet version
Clip-on mics such as the DPA 4099 Trumpet keep distance and angle constant on stage (paraphrase).
11 - Close Sennheiser MD 441
dat klinkt goed op alles. Alle sources, maar blijkbaar zijn er wel heel veel trombonisten en trompetisten die dat gebruiken (the sound engineer, as Tomas relayed it)
14 - Clip-on Brass advice DPA 4099 CORE+clip-on for brass
4099 for instrument-mounted live use gives more isolation and gain before feedback than the omni (paraphrase).
1 - Clip-on Brass advice DPA 4099 CORE+clip-on for brass
The 4099 gives much more isolation and higher gain before feedback than the omni (paraphrase).
1 - Clip-on Brass advice Shure PGA98H-XLRclip-on, brass
A condenser optimised for brass, with horn clamp and in-line preamp (paraphrase).
13
Advised against
- Close condenser (type only)close, bell-on
Condensers can add an unwanted piercing quality through their high-end boost (paraphrase).
10 - Close condenser or ribbon (type only)avoid for close trumpet: sensitive to the very high SPL (about 140 dB)
Avoid sensitive condensers or ribbon mics because of the high sound pressure (paraphrase).
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Range
E3 to about Bb515165 Hz – 932 Hz
B-flat trumpet, sounds a major second below written (written F#3-C6). Lead players go to about F6 sounding or higher.
Written F#3 to C6; the range above is sounding pitch.
| Low | E3–Eb4 | dark, metallic; fewer overtones |
|---|---|---|
| Middle | E4–E5 | brilliant, full, rounded |
| High | F5–Bb5 | bright, penetrating |
VSL gives registers for the C trumpet (written = sounding F#3-F4, G4-F#5, G5-C6); converted here to B-flat trumpet sounding pitch.
Overtones reach about 5.6 kHz (the highest harmonic within 40 dB of the strongest, at a moderate level; louder playing reaches higher)16.
Where the sound comes from
The sound
Brass tone gets much brighter as it gets louder: at mf the harmonics above 3-4 kHz are weak, at ff they reach well past 10 kHz. The bell also beams the highs straight ahead.24
Recording it
- Sources agree on the kind of placement, not the distance: from 6-12 in (bright, close) through 1-2 ft and about 1 m to 2-6 ft (more room). Closer means brighter and noisier.
- Slightly off the bell axis, or a little below its line of sight; on axis sounds harsh.
- Large-diaphragm condensers, ribbons and dynamics are all recommended by independent sources; none is a consensus. Two sources warn against condensers or ribbons right at the bell (SPL, piercing highs).
- Check the mic's maximum SPL and keep a pad in reach.1,8,5,4,12,11,13,7,10,9
Mutes
- Straight: bright, nasal, thinner
- Cup: soft, rounder, highs damped
- Harmon: thin and buzzy; with the stem, a "wah"
- Plunger: "wah-wah" by hand15
Estimate: Not found in the sources checked (general practice): Straight, Cup, Harmon, Plunger.
Frequency areas
Problems to watch
The noisy part of the sound is near the bell; the quality sound develops further out (Gary Grant).3
How loud
Sound pressure level measurements as published. Different kinds of figure (a playing level, a peak, a dose at the player's ear) can't be compared with each other, and neither can figures at different distances.
| Playing level | |
|---|---|
| 96 dB or more | at 4 m; loud playing8 |
| 88–108 dB | at 3 m; orchestral playing; peak 113 dB17 |
| 88–108 dB | at 3 m; UK Sound Advice table of representative noise levels, row 'Trumpet' (single musician) secondary17 |
| 63–101 dB(Z) | at 1 m; Modern C trumpet, derived from the TU Berlin sound power values estimate18 |
| Peaks | |
| 130 dB | at 0.5 m; from the bell8 |
| 135–140 dB | near the bell4 |
| 140 dB | close11 |
| 140 dB or more | close up19 |
| 113 dB | not stated (peak column of the same table); UK Sound Advice table of representative noise levels, row 'Trumpet' secondary17 |
| 101–111 dB(A) | at the player; same study, LASmax (slow) per rehearsal or concert20 |
| 119–133 dB(C) | at the player; same study, LCpeak per rehearsal or concert20 |
| 120 dB or more(C) | personal dosimeter; Same trumpeter: 305 events above 120 dB(C) in the week21 |
| Dynamic range | |
| 38 dB(Z) | sound power, whole range; Modern C trumpet, Weinzierl et al. 2018, Table I estimate18 |
| Player's exposure (dosimeter) | |
| 88.4–90.2 dB(A) | player (dosimeter); one student trumpeter over a week: LEP,d 88.4 dB(A) on average, 90.2 on the worst day; 305 events above 120 dB(C)21 |
| 88 dB | at the player; Sound Advice example: typical symphony performance level, 'eg trumpet' (reaches the 85 dB daily action value in 4 hours) secondary17 |
| 84–91 dB(A) | at the player (meters on tripods with microphones close to the players); Polish opera and symphony orchestras, group rehearsals, concerts and performances; 34 samples20 |
| 88.4 dB(A) | personal dosimeter; RCM student orchestra trumpeter, one week of rehearsals and a performance: average daily LEP,d21 |
| 90.2 dB(A) | personal dosimeter; Same trumpeter, worst day (Monday rehearsal), LEP,d21 |
| 98.2 dB(A) | shoulder microphones 10-15 cm from the ears; Trumpet students (Warsaw), playing in chamber ensembles22 |
| Sound power | |
| 115 dB | maximum sound power level Lw (re 1 pW), no distance; Sengpielaudio table of maximum possible sound power, row 'Trompete' secondary23 |
| 74–112 dB(Z) | sound power level Lw (dB re 1 pW), not a sound pressure at a distance; Modern C trumpet, single notes over the whole range played as soft and as loud as possible, anechoic chamber TU Berlin, 32-mic spherical array18 |
| 83–107 dB(Z) | sound power level Lw (dB re 1 pW), repertoire-weighted average; Modern C trumpet, pp and ff sound power averaged over the range, weighted by how often each pitch occurs in Beethoven's symphonies18 |
Sources
- DPA Mic University: How to mic a trumpet and trombone
- Production Expert: What to listen for when recording brass
- Pro Sound Web: Jazz Trumpeter Wayne Bergeron Chooses Royer For Full Circle
- Recording Magazine: Miking Brass and Winds
- Recording Magazine: Miking the Horn Section
- Royer Labs library: Steve Albini microphone comparisons
- Royer Labs: Introduction to Recording Brass
- Sound On Sound: Q. How do I record brass in the home studio?
- Sound On Sound: Session Notes, The Practical Craft Of Recording Brass
- Summersong: Recording Brass Instruments
- Thomann Online Expert: Recording wind instruments, brass
- Yamaha Hub: Recording Acoustic Instruments, Part 3
- Shure: How to Choose the Best Mics for Brass, Wind, and String Instruments
- Tomas's field note: Ma Petite's trumpet on an MD 441 at CaDansa
- Vienna Symphonic Library Academy: Trumpet in C
- SHARC Timbre Database v2 (Gregory Sandell): harmonic analyses of McGill University Master Samples
- Representative noise levels table with orchestra noise guidance (UK Sound Advice material)
- JASA: Sound power and timbre as cues for the dynamic strength of orchestral instruments (Weinzierl, Lepa, Schultz, Detzner, von Coler, Behler)
- DPA Mic University: How to mic woodwinds and brass
- JOSE: Evaluation of Sound Exposure and Risk of Hearing Impairment in Orchestral Musicians (Pawlaczyk-Luszczynska, Dudarewicz, Zamojska, Sliwinska-Kowalska)
- Backus, Clark and Williamon: Noise exposure and hearing thresholds among orchestral musicians (ISPS 2007)
- Noise Control 2022 digital monograph, ch. 4: The risk of musicians' high sound exposure during performances of classical music (Pietrzak, Zera)
- Sengpielaudio (UdK Berlin): Stoerquelle - Musikinstrument? (maximum sound power of instruments)
- Fletcher and Rossing: The Physics of Musical Instruments, 2nd edition
- iZotope: EQ Cheat Sheet
- Sonicbids: EQ Cheat Sheet, Mixing Frequencies for Every Instrument